Thursday, January 13, 2011

2011-01-10 Minutes

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State of Michigan

County of Shiawassee

Charter Township of Owosso

Be it known that the Owosso Charter Township Board of Trustees met in regular session on Monday January 10, 2011 at 7:00 P.M. in the Township Board Room, located at 2998 W. M 21, Owosso, Michigan 48867.

Call to Order: Supervisor Miller led the Pledge to the Flag. Moment of silence for the victims of a shooting that took place in Arizona (during a town hall meeting).

Members in attendance: Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Archer- Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Campbell- Yes. Trustee Krajcovic-Yes.

Others Present: Attorney Lynn Bowne, Fire Chief David Johnson, Asst. Chief Thornburg, Building/Zoning Administrator Robert Delaney and Assessor Schweikert and MMR Manager Mac Donald.

Agenda: Supervisor adds “Website Update” under “D) Unfinished Business”. Hearing no other additions chair entertains a motion to accept the proposed agenda with the website update added. So Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Treasurer Cudney and concurred by unanimous consent.

Minutes-Previous Meeting: Trustee Krajcovic questions Administrator Delaney if the new codebook is the 2009 codebook. Admin. Delaney states yes the 2009 book is going to be coming out. Krajcovic sites a typo on “page 4, paragraph 7” where it states the county has adopted it should be “the” instead of “they”. She states it should say “The way it works”.

Chair entertains a motion, to accept the minutes as printed, December 13th, 2010. So Moved Treasurer Cudney, Second Trustee Archer and concurred by unanimous consent.

Clerk requests Supervisor to please sign minutes and pass them back to her. Supervisor states no he would not sign them. He wanted to hold them and write on them why he won’t sign them. Clerk states she would need them back for the official book.

Treasurer’s Report: Attached to minutes. Supervisor asks if there are questions for the Treasurer. Hearing none the chair will accept a motion to accept the treasurer’s report. So Moved Trustee Krajcovic, Second Trustee Campbell and concurred by unanimous consent.

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Public Comments: Opened at 7:05 pm - Closed at 7:18 pm.

Resident Paul Kruger: Thanks the board for bringing this to a place and time where it appears we are going to be in a position to make a decision and by having city water to any home in the Owosso area will certainly add to the resale value of their property.

Kay Lorraine, Bennington Township: States that providing water to the township is not a mandated service. It’s rather expensive to start up and you may save a little bit on start up fees by negotiating with the city of Owosso but over time you will pay for that over and over again. With the current economic conditions many municipalities are having an extremely difficult time providing the mandated services. This is certainly not the time to be sticking your neck into an area that is not required and incurring debt or future obligations.

Ms. Lorraine calls the Supervisor out regarding his recent newspaper editorial wherein he attacked the clerk by repeatedly saying, that is not accurate, that is not accurate, etc. It sounds like you are calling Mrs. Gute a liar and I would think that would be the furthest thing from anybody’s mind. This person puts a lot effort into being accurate in everything she says and does and I think that was a little bit out of line. The inaccuracies in your letter far out numbered and far out weighed any inaccuracies that I have known Mrs. Gute to come up with in the entire time I have known her.

Mr. Kruger interrupts Ms. Lorraine stating he hoped there is a time limit. Ms. Lorraine states Mr. Kruger just took away from some of her time and that he was out of order.

Supervisor Miller says we are not going to debate it, that’s it, you are done. Ms. Lorraine states she is done.

Trustee Schultz asks Ms. Lorraine if she lived in the township. She states again that she is from Bennington Township. Trustee Schultz stated, “That’s my point”.

Clerk Gute informs Trustee Schultz that this is a public meeting open to anyone and that Ms. Lorraine pays taxes to Owosso Township by way of emergency services.

Supervisor Miller states Trustee Schultz had the right to ask a question. Clerk states she too had a right to answer that this is a public meeting open to anyone from the public.

Resident Fawn Stephens: States she is a township resident and that she agreed with everything Ms. Lorraine had said.

Resident Tom Manke: States he is a resident and business owner in the township. He represents a new site that has 9,000 people from the area that subscribe to it. The Township is at a historical time here and the board is fortunate to be here.

We have been hearing from different experts in the field that the townships have got to come together. No longer are businesses coming to a city or township. They are coming to a region.

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Public Comments (cont. w/Tom Manke):

Tonight you have a chance to vote to bring something to this township that the township very much needs. Since 1982 he has put in two wells on the two (2) properties he owns in the township. They had to be drilled deeper. We need city water. By doing this you’re stepping up saying to the city of Owosso, Corunna and Caledonia that Owosso Township is working as a regional partner. By doing that you are going to be taking out the politics.

Bill Magee, Georgia Pacific, Industrial Park (Delaney Rd.): States G.P. has the luxury of having both city and township water. When they need good water they go to city water. They run a 500-horse boiler and million dollar presses. If they put rocks and dirt through them and then try to clean their presses or change colors they ruin individual parts to that machine. So they have a valve and they can switch over to either source of water.

Water is not critical to Georgia Pacific because they can go from one water source to another. When they got brown water from the Township they provided jugs of water. So they didn’t drink Township water.

He doesn’t live in Owosso so he is sorry he isn’t speaking for those that did. He is only speaking as a manufacturer that cannot accept township water day after day.

It’s a hard decision because it costs a lot of money and whether you vote yes or no, I am just going to hit the valve. He considers Georgia Pacific lucky,

Jim Hunt, Williamston Products (Delaney Rd.): Like Georgia Pacific said the water is extremely corrosive. They provide bottled drinking water for their employees. They do not have the luxury of just turning off a valve from city verses township water. The water literally eats the pipes off the wall. It’s real hard water.

With that being said, manufacturing costs is key and I can’t sign up for something that’s going to be too cost prohibitive either.

So keep in mind if you’re going to change water systems make sure we have control on costs so it’s predictable. So we know what it is going to cost us going forward as we try to bring more businesses and more employees into this area.

Justin Horvath, President/CEO, SEDP: As you all know we’re all focused on bringing new businesses and retaining current businesses in the township. You heard tonight that a couple of businesses are struggling with this. So with just the physical quality of water and pressure of the water this would be a major improvement for them.

By supporting this agreement you’re really supporting jobs and tax base in your township. Along with that and more of a global scope I know this is something that has been worked on very extensively and has been vetted very closely by several members of this township board. There have been many meetings for lots of opportunity for people to voice their comments.

We feel it’s a very good agreement for the township. It’s very cooperative. It’s not a wash for the township. In fact it’s a proven success for Caledonia Township.

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Public Comments (cont. w/Justin Horvath):

That’s really what we are looking at tonight, a very similar agreement. I’m sure you’ll hear the numbers tonight. I believe they have already received several hundred thousands of dollars already from their agreement with the city of Owosso.

The property that gets served by the water will stay in the township. This is not an annexation or a 425. It’s also a voluntary choice. They’re not forcing any residents to tap into the system. So if you have a well and you’re worried tonight am I going to have to pay for water that isn’t part of it either!

I personally believe this is a great cooperative agreement. I think its great for the township. As Tom said this has been a long time in the making. You have an opportunity to make history tonight. It’s going to help our community. It’s going to help our industrial businesses and I fully support what you’re doing.

Sheriff’s Dept. Rep./County/State Rep. Comments: The SCSD handled 217 incidents in the Township during the month of December 2010.

Cemetery Report: Report on file. Two (2) open/close burials and the sale of two (2) lots were recorded for the month of December 2010. Total income was $1,775.

Assessor Report: Report on file. No questions of the Assessor.

Fire Report: Report on file. The department responded to eight (8) alarms during the month of November 2010. The department is up 30 runs from last year. A 50/50 matching grant from the DNR was received to install dry hydrants. The amount of the grant is $2,000 and Chief Johnson feels that it is sufficient enough money to install 3 dry hydrants within the Township coverage area. One on Ruess Rd. at Constine’s Gravel Pit, one in Russ Township and one in Bennington Township. Department is planning an open house once the firemen have the new truck ready for service.

Moved Trustee Schultz to spend $1,203.80 for the radio to match the grant, 25% of the grant. Second Treasurer Cudney and concurred by unanimous consent.

Ambulance Report: MMR responded to forty two (42) medical calls for the month of October 2010 and thirty five (35) medical calls for the month of November 2010. The response time average for the last four (4) months of 2010 was six (6) minutes and ten (10) seconds. Mr. Mac Donald will submit the response time report to the board next month.

Building Inspector/Code Enforcer: Report on file. One (1) Mechanical, One (1) Plumbing, Two (2) Electrical and One (1) Other (Cell Tower) and Two (2) Lot split permits were issued for the month of December 2010. Administrator Delaney announces that permit issuances are up so far this year.

Diversion from Agenda: Supervisor Miller states the last thing the board received was a Caledonia Charter Township Utility Authority report from Trustee Schultz and asked Trustee Schultz if he wanted to mention anything. Just that we’re looking for insurance for the authority. Two agencies have put in. We haven’t decided which one. He thinks it will be next month that they would know more.

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Unfinished Business (begin audio tape):

A) Water Contract:

Supervisor Miller: We need a motion to have discussion.

Unfinished Business – A) Water Contract (cont.):

Treasurer Cudney: I’ll make that motion.

Trustee Schultz: Support.

Supervisor Miller: We have a motion. Well what would the motion be. To enter into a contract?

Treasurer Cudney: You said to have a discussion so I did.

Supervisor Miller: Well okay. I wanted something definitive.

Treasurer Cudney: You didn’t say that.

Supervisor Miller: No I did not say definitive.

Treasurer Cudney: You have to say what you want in the motion.

Supervisor Miller: Okay. Diane,do you want to make a motion?

Clerk Gute: I’ll make a motion.

Moved Clerk Gute to adopt the following resolution:

Whereas, due to the fact that the electors of Owosso Charter Township soundly defeated a 2002-03 municipal water project that did include obtaining water from either the city of Owosso or constructing a township owned treatment facility and;

Whereas, due to the fact that 60% of the township residents have not petitioned for municipal water since that election and;

Whereas, due to the fact that the township has always bargained in good faith to reach a workable water agreement with the city of Owosso for some 30+ years and has never been able to achieve a win, win contract between both parties and;

Whereas, due to the state of the economy, now is not the time to enter into such an agreement with unknown expenses and;

Whereas, due to the fact that board members took an oath to uphold the Constitution of this state,

Therefore, Owosso Charter Township will discontinue water negotiations with the city of Owosso.

Supervisor Miller: Is there a second? Hearing none the motion dies lack of second.

Trustee Krajcovic: I would like to..

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Unfinished Business – A) Water Contract (cont.):

Supervisor Miller: Diane.

Trustee Jrajcovic continued): address. First of all I would like to take this opportunity to thank present and past township and city officials for their many hours of hard work over the past several years negotiating in good faith the proposed water agreement.

I would also like to thank Caledonia Township officials, numerous statewide township officials, Township attorney Lynn Bowne and MTA for their counsel and input as well as Tom Newhof of Prein & Newhof for his knowledge and valuable suggestions.

I offer the following Motion, a Motion to enter into the condensed, presented Water Agreement with the City of Owosso to help grow, develop and protect Owosso Charter Township by offering a reasonable source of portable water and authorize and direct Supervisor, Danny Miller to sign on behalf of Owosso Charter Township the presented Water Agreement.

Clerk Gute: I would like to ask before, well go ahead and get your second.

Supervisor Miller: Is there a second.

Trustee Schultz: I’ll support that.

Supervisor Miller: There is a second by Trustee Schultz. Motion by Trustee Krajcovic to enter into this condensed version of or …this contract with the city of Owosso. Second by Gary. Board member comments, discussion, go.

Discussion:

Clerk Gute: Yes, I would like to ask that when this comes to vote that Trustee Krajcovic abstain from voting due to the direct …to her business, it’s going to help her business. The sale of her property such as Mr. Kruger just said during his public comments. It’s a direct benefit for the sale of the property.

Supervisor Miller: She has an obligation to vote. She has that willingness to vote yes or no. Okay, anybody else …discussion.

Trustee Archer: I would just like to say being one of the newest board members I did go back and try to read over the different contracts that were provided before and then all of what Judy had done last year. The work that she had and in comparing some of the things she had outlined in there that I feel really weren’t a deterrent under the new contract that we are looking at.

But I kept referencing back to …I’m real into reading the Michigan Township News because I really feel this gives me some information that she can go by.

In April of this year they hit highly on working with municipalities to basically not reinvent the wheel but to work together to make it a better project for everyone, to offer to our community and to work together with our municipalities and to offer to our constituents what we can.

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Unfinished Business – A) Water Contract (cont.):

And as it was brought up, it …is voluntary. Not everyone in this township is going to have to pay into this. There might be some fees but it’s still …it’s gonna help grow our township.

And this article, I just kept going back and forth to it. And many of the things that Judy had in her last article in the paper I numbered her paragraph and I came back to this article was able to defend everything in this article what we are doing. I feel very strong.

Clerk Gute: I would like to know, in your news article Danny you stated that we got a second opinion from attorney Fahey. Has the board got that opinion and if so why was it not given to me or provided to me?

Supervisor Miller: My comment was that a third opinion was and Bill Fahey’s name was mentioned and you said you had called him and I went on what you had said and you said you had contact with Mr. Fahey.

Clerk Gute: Yes I did, however…

Supervisor Miller: Thank you. Therefore we had an opinion. The other thing is we even sent it to Prein and Newhof and Prein and Newhof dealing with water and water issues on a daily basis and throughout the many years that they have been business as engineers they also reviewed this. And we took that. So you did have that opinion.

Clerk Gute: Mr. Miller Prien and Newhof is not an attorney firm. Prein and Newhof was given the agreement to see if it was a workable system for us. Prein and Newhof stated on numerous occasions they were not attorneys. I contacted Bill Fahey regarding water rates. Bill Fahey did not do a second opinion on the entire contract.

Supervisor Miller: I cannot believe that after you had talked to Bill Fahey that you did not get an opinion and one that you wanted Judy. So therefore, I don’t think that, that was a misconception at all.

Clerk Gute: I did not have the authority from the board to pay for it. They have not reviewed the entire contract.

Supervisor Miller: You said Supervisor Miller took it off the table. Supervisor Miller never once took it off the table. Never once said no to it.

Clerk Gute: Then lets reflect to the minutes. (Note: Past minutes)

Supervisor Miller: We’ll reflect it in the minutes that Supervisor Miller never said no.

Clerk Gute: And you kept saying we already had the second opinion and we have not.

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Unfinished Business – A) Water Contract (cont.):

Supervisor Miller: And I quote and I quote from Prein and Newhof “Perrr the re …Perrr the request from Judy Gute and Township attorney Lynn Bowne. That was from Prein and Newhof. Never came off. You did not you said that you had made contact with Bill Fahey. I did not in any way misinterpret what I put in the paper.

Clerk Gute: Board, have we had a second opinion on this entire contract?

Supervisor Miller: I don’t believe that we are going to discuss what we

Clerk Gute: Danny I have the floor you continually choose to cut people off and not let them get their point across. It always has to be your point.

Supervisor Miller: Oh Judy, come on. Come on Judy you say that every time.

Clerk Gute: Board has this board received an opinion on the entire contract as we stated we would by an attorney.

Supervisor Miller: We have received it from our attorney and our attorney was real close.

Clerk Gute: Would you let the board answer Danny?

Supervisor Miller: And I am returning your call.

Trustee Schultz: He’s doing a good job.

Supervisor Miller: Moving on, any other

Clerk Gute: This is the biggest, biggest strong-arm attempt that I have ever seen.

Trustee Schultz: Well I’m gonna, gonna call the question. I’m gonna call the question.

Supervisor Miller: Question-s been called. Anybody else? Question-s been called. Would you read your …just the motion please.

Trustee Krajcovic: Motion to enter into the condensed, presented Water Agreement with the City of Owosso to help grow, develop and protect Owosso Charter Township by offering a reasonable source of potable water and authorize and direct Supervisor, Danny Miller to sign on behalf of Owosso Charter Township the presented Water Agreement.

Supervisor Miller: Thank you. We had discussion. Roll call please.

Roll Call: Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Krajcovic-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Clerk Gute-No, Trustee Campbell-No (but the reason is because I think it is going to be too expensive for our customers), Trustee Schultz-Yes, Supervisor Miller-Yes.

Supervisor Miller: A five (5) to two (2) vote we will enter into that. We will sign that and we will carry forward.

(end audio tape)

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B) Budget Workshop – reschedule from Jan. 31, 2011, 6:00: To be held Wednesday February 02, 2011 at 6:00pm.

C) Annual Meeting: To be held on Saturday March 26, 2011, at 9:00am.

D) Website Bids: Alisha Thibodeau has been asked to come to attend a board meeting. Supervisor is waiting to hear back from her. He hopes to have an update in February.

New Business: None.

Payment of Bills:

Supervisor asks if there are any questions on the payment of bills.

Schultz questions whether the payment to Richard Gute is for mowing services. Clerk states it is.

Krajcovic asks what deputy clerk’s are paid per hour and what is capped out at. Clerk states $8.00 per hour and $4,000 respectfully.

Krajcovic questions the $1,064 check to Mail Room Service Center and what is it for. Clerk answers it is for the mailing of tax bills.

Ms. Lorraine comments, “after all these years you don’t know what it is”. Supervisor stops Trustee Krajcovic and states we don’t really need those kinds of comments. If you want to direct them there is a public statement coming up.

Krajcovic questions bill paid to Shiawassee Emergency Management. Clerk states it is for the radio’s approved tonight.

Moved Trustee Krajcovic that we accept the checks from the check registers dated December 15 through January 10th as presented, Second Treasurer Cudney and concurred by unanimous consent.

(Cemetery checks – 1054 – 1057, Fire checks 3918 – 3949, General Fund checks 4715 – 4742, T & A checks 2056 – 2059 and Water checks 597 – 599 shall be released for payment).

Public Comments: Opened @ 7:44pm – Closed @ 7:55pm

Resident Sherman Garnett: States that because of his issues he never knows what’s going on at township board meetings. So he is requesting that Judy Gute or whoever is responsible to produce the report of the township meeting as the meeting takes place. Not by opinions and he is sure many in the township would like to look in the paper if they couldn’t make it to the meeting to find out what’s going on. He requests that the issue be addressed.

Campbell states the Supervisor was going to put out a letter and asked what ever happened to that. He said he was going to put out a township letter to inform people.

Miller informs Campbell that because of some financial issues, etc. and the board not coming on. I don’t think you agreed to it.

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Public Comments (cont.):

Campbell said she never said it was going to come out. The Supervisor had said that. I just said that it would be helpful to Mr. Garnett.

Miller states that it would but what Mr. Garnett is saying a set of minutes published in the newspaper. Not a synopsis but a set of the minutes.

Gute explains that the clerk is to put a minute synopsis in the paper. The clerk and supervisor are to agree on the synopsis. If they disagree then the clerk is to publish the entire set of minutes. There have been minutes in the past that were 27 pages long. I’m sure we don’t want the township to have to pay for that. Mr. Garnett could F.O.I.A. for them or he is at liberty to contact the clerk to view them or obtain them.

Krajcovic informs Mr. Garnett that the township is working on a website that will help with that.

Resident Paul Kruger comments that he doesn’t attend many board meetings but those that he does attend, the person back here is always attacking the Supervisor. I question this ladies sanity. I am wondering whether or not she might be a dangerous person to allow into a meeting cause she might attack the Supervisor.

Jim Hunt from Williamston Products states he thinks it is courageous for people that disagree to speak their mind. You don’t need a bunch of lemmings or followers, the same thing. Investigate it, come to your conclusion and vote your conscience.

Richard Ball Bennington Township Resident announces that State Representative, Ben Glardon, just arrived from another meeting.

State Rep. Ben Glardon/Township Resident states he hasn’t fixed everything yet, though he is truly humbled to be our representative. He looks forward to that. He doesn’t take himself that seriously all the time but he does take this position very seriously.

We have a lot of issues and a lot of opportunity and they have a very big obligation to do what is right for Michigan. The Bi Partisan and Partisan caucus meetings he has attended with the new Governor and the direction he sees them going he thinks is good for Michigan. He is excited to be a part of it.

There truly has been a common theme to focus on doing what is right for Michigan. Particularly in the business climate and to work on creating an atmosphere that will cause investors and employers to invest here to put our talented workforce back to work here and raise revenue for our funds and services that we need.

It’s an exciting and challenging time. At this time on the house side they have not yet done the committees. Session starts Thursday and our Governor has a very aggressive agenda to get going.

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Communications/Board Comments/Reports (cont. State Rep Glardon:

His door is open. He is still the same Ben Glardon that most of you know and he truly looks forward to being the people’s voice.

Gute states she has been contacted in regards to a referendum petition to recall the vote of the board and asked attorney Bowne if she was correct in telling them that they had 90 days to do that and that they would need to obtain signatures from 10% of those that voted in the last Governor election.

Attorney Bowne states it is his impression and he would double check, though in order to have a referendum you have to have statutory authority to allow that. The question is whether the action of the board was that of legislative action or administrative action.

He believes there is a big question on whether the voters have the ability to have a referendum vote on the board entering into a contract with another municipality.

If the board had clearly adopted some sort of statutes or an ordinance I think there is the authority to allow the voters to vote on it.

Gute states she believes their thought was the franchise agreement that goes against the Michigan Constitution.

Attorney Bowne says that there is a paragraph that in a sense addresses the issue of consent to the city to enter public rights of way to install and maintain water lines. He would have to look at the statute with regard to franchise and see what the time period is on that.

But as a rule an initiative or referendum on board action is normally not allowed unless it’s legislation.

Gute states the people have been told they would not have to hook up to city water and asked attorney Bowne if at anytime a board could make a resolution that the people who don’t hookup would still need to pay for the pipe that crosses their property? As an example, if 60% of the residents on her street connected to city water and the other 40% did not, would it still be necessary for that 40% to pay for the waterline that crossed their property?

Attorney Bowne if 60% of the people say please set up a special assessment district. Then you go forward with the public hearings and the board would have to make a decision but it’s still not a mandatory obligation of residents or businesses to hook in even if they are in a special assessment district.

An analogy is with our sewer districts. We still have land out there that has not been developed that sanitary sewer runs along and if a home or business comes in and builds on that site then that legal entity will be assessed for trunkage fees, front footage fees, stub fees and etc. So that is foreseen and that is how the water system will go.

In sanitary sewer there is a law that if you run sewer by a place they have to hook in. In the water situation there is no law to force them to hook in.

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Communications/Board Comments/Reports (cont.):

Gute clarifies that she is not saying they would be forced to hook in. She wants the people to know that they will not have to pay front footage, stub fees and etc. if the pipe crossed their property and they chose not to connect.

Attorney Bowne: No. If the project is a go and the township board decides to go forward with it, the township would carry the cost of that.

Miller states so in other words we have a very healthy sewer fund. We could borrow from the sewer fund at a very low percent and run those lines and the only time you pay for any of those lines is when you decided to hookup. Up until that time the resident would not have to hookup at all.

Attorney Bowne Right, they don’t have to pay the front footage or anything until they hookup.

Gute states that her neighbor had told her that she had to pay stub fees and etc. for sewer lines that went across vacant land she owned.

Attorney Bowne stated that was wrong because they were not supposed to pay for anything until it was utilized.

Cudney asked if she got her money back.

Gute did not know because that happened back in the 80’s, though she knows the lady was mad because she had to pay 2 bills. One for her house and the other for the vacant land.

Resident Terry Smigelski asked if his well went out would it be mandatory for him to connect to city water or could he drill another well.

Miller states this always has and will be a voluntary hookup.

Gary Burk, city of Owosso states that in the city it is still possible to have a well. You have to get a permit from the county health department. We do not regulate individual wells in the city.

We operate under the uniform plumbing code that says if it’s new construction and municipal water is available then you are supposed to hook into that.

There’s, maybe three (3) or four (4) people that maybe have wells in town. Like when you sell property in town it’s the same in the city as it is in the county. The well has to be current with county environmental health code. Their option is to connect to the municipal system, which is usually cheaper than drilling a new well.

Resident Fawn Stephans states that when she lived in Flushing Township they ran water. She did not want water but at end of the year they put it on your taxes. You had to pay so much every year.

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Communications/Board Comments/Reports (cont.):

Attorney Bowne states he knows if a municipality has a bond issue that you have to commit full faith and credit. That could change the rules of the game. This contract has no voted bond issue. There’s no financing.

If a bond like when the Township had a vote before for a water system. Perhaps there would have been a bond issue. When you have a bond issue you have got to make sure you have so many users.

Schultz states when they put the sewers in they asked for water at that time but it was voted down.

Attorney Bowne so if she’s saying that she was forced to pay in Flushing Township there must be a different set of facts there.

Gute states she read something that if a board or council considered it a health, safety and welfare issue a bond did not have to be voted on. The board could just put it on them.

Attorney Bowne, right. If the federal government came in and said your municipality is in bad shape water wise it would be under a court order like the sewer was.

Fawn Stephans wants to make sure that she cannot be forced to pay for water where she lives.

Miller states he didn’t think so.

Attorney Bowne states there is no way Ms. Stephan’s is going to be forced in.

Adjournment: Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Treasurer Cudney to adjourn at 8:05pm.

Respectfully Submitted,

Judy K. Gute

Owosso Charter Township, clerk

(Clerk’s Note: Letters to the editor regarding this agreement have been attached to the minutes for future reference)

Danny C. Miller

Owosso Charter Township, supervisor

2011-01-10 video/ Synopsis of Minutes

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First Public Comments Part 1 of 2


First Public Comments Part 2 of 2


Unfinished Business
Water Agreement part 1 of 2


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Second Public Comments Part 1 of 2



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Second Public Comments
Honorable Mention
Jim Hunt
Williamston Products


Second Public Comments
Dishonorable Mention
Supervisor Miller - "Newsletter, what newsletter?"



Board Comments/Reports and addtnl
Public Comments Part 1 of 2


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Charter Township of Owosso

Minutes Synopsis

Be it known that the Owosso Charter Township Board of Trustees met in Regular Session on Monday January 10, 2010 at 7:00 P.M. in the Township Board Room, at 2998 W. M 21, Owosso, Michigan 48867.

Roll Call: Archer, Campbell, Cudney, Gute, Miller, Schultz, Krajcovic.

Approved: 1) Agenda. 2) 12/13/10 Minutes. 3) 11/30/10 Treasurer Report. 4) Fire Dept. Radios. 5) Unfinished Business A)

Water Contract:

Supervisor Miller: We need a motion to have discussion.

Treasurer Cudney: I’ll make that motion.

Trustee Schultz: Support.

Supervisor Miller: We have a motion. Well what would the motion be, to enter into a contract?

Treasurer Cudney: You said to have a discussion so I did.

Supervisor Miller: Well okay. I wanted something definitive.

Treasurer Cudney: You didn’t say that.

Supervisor Miller: No I did not say definitive.

Treasurer Cudney: You have to say what you want in the motion.

Supervisor Miller: Okay. Diane, do you want to make a motion?

Clerk Gute: I’ll make a motion.

Moved Clerk Gute to adopt the following resolution:

Whereas, due to the fact that the electors of Owosso Charter Township soundly defeated a 2002-03 municipal water project that did include obtaining water from either the city of Owosso or constructing a township owned treatment facility and;

Whereas, due to the fact that 60% of the township residents have not petitioned for municipal water since that election and;

Whereas, due to the fact that the township has always bargained in good faith to reach a workable water agreement with the city of Owosso for some 30+ years and has never been able to achieve a win, win contract between both parties and;

Whereas, due to the state of the economy, now is not the time to enter into such an agreement with unknown expenses and;

Whereas, due to the fact that board members took an oath to uphold the Constitution of this state,

Therefore, Owosso Charter Township will discontinue water negotiations with the city of Owosso.

Supervisor Miller: Is there a second? Hearing none the motion dies lack of second.

Trustee Krajcovic: I would like to..

Supervisor Miller: Diane.

Trustee Krajcovic: First of all I would like to take this opportunity to thank present and past township and city officials for their many hours of hard work over the past several years negotiating in good faith the proposed water agreement. I would also like to thank Caledonia Township officials, numerous statewide township officials, Township attorney Lynn Bowne and MTA for their counsel and input as well as Tom Newhof of Prein & Newhof for his knowledge and valuable suggestions.

I offer the following Motion, a Motion to enter into the condensed, presented Water Agreement with the City of Owosso to help grow, develop and protect Owosso Charter Township by offering a reasonable source of portable water and authorize and direct Supervisor, Danny Miller to sign on behalf of Owosso Charter Township the presented Water Agreement.

Clerk Gute: I would like to ask before, well go ahead and get your second.

Supervisor Miller: Is there a second.

Trustee Schultz: I’ll support that.

Supervisor Miller: There is a second by Trustee Schultz. Motion by Trustee Krajcovic to enter into this condensed version of or …this contract with the city of Owosso. Second by Gary. Board member comments, discussion, go.

Discussion:

Clerk Gute: Yes, I would like to ask that when this comes to vote that Trustee Krajcovic abstain from voting due to the direct …to her business, it’s going to help her business. The sale of her property such as Mr. Kruger just said during his public comments. It’s a direct benefit for the sale of the property.

Supervisor Miller: She has an obligation to vote. She has that willingness to vote yes or no. Okay, anybody else …discussion.

Trustee Archer: I would just like to say being one of the newest board members I did go back and try to read over the different contracts that were provided before and then all of what Judy had done last year. The work that she had and in comparing some of the things she had outlined in there that I feel really weren’t a deterrent under the new contract that we are looking at. But I kept referencing back to …I’m real into reading the Michigan Township News because I really feel this gives me some information that she can go by. In April of this year they hit highly on working with municipalities to basically not reinvent the wheel but to work together to make it a better project for everyone, to offer to our community and to work together with our municipalities and to offer to our constituents what we can. And as it was brought up, it …is voluntary. Not everyone in this township is going to have to pay into this. There might be some fees but it’s still …it’s gonna help grow our township. And this article, I just kept going back and forth to it. And many of the things that Judy had in her last article in the paper I numbered her paragraph and I came back to this article was able to defend everything in this article what we are doing. I feel very strong.

Clerk Gute: I would like to know, in your news article Danny you stated that we got a second opinion from attorney Fahey. Has the board got that opinion and if so why was it not given to me or provided to me?

Supervisor Miller: My comment was that a third opinion was and Bill Fahey’s name was mentioned and you said you had called him and I went on what you had said and you said you had contact with Mr. Fahey.

Clerk Gute: Yes I did, however…

Supervisor Miller: Thank you. Therefore we had an opinion. The other thing is we even sent it to Prein and Newhof and Prein and Newhof dealing with water and water issues on a daily basis and throughout the many years that they have been business as engineers they also reviewed this. And we took that. So you did have that opinion.

Clerk Gute: Mr. Miller Prien and Newhof is not an attorney firm. Prein and Newhof was given the agreement to see if it was a workable system for us. Prein and Newhof stated on numerous occasions they were not attorneys. I contacted Bill Fahey regarding water rates. Bill Fahey did not do a second opinion on the entire contract.

Supervisor Miller: I cannot believe that after you had talked to Bill Fahey that you did not get an opinion and one that you wanted Judy. So therefore, I don’t think that, that was a misconception at all.

Clerk Gute: I did not have the authority from the board to pay for it. They have not reviewed the entire contract.

Supervisor Miller: You said Supervisor Miller took it off the table. Supervisor Miller never once took it off the table. Never once said no to it.

Clerk Gute: Then lets reflect to the minutes. (Note: Past minutes)

Supervisor Miller: We’ll reflect it in the minutes that Supervisor Miller never said no.

Clerk Gute: And you kept saying we already had the second opinion and we have not.

Supervisor Miller: And I quote and I quote from Prein and Newhof “Perrr the re …Perrr the request from Judy Gute and Township attorney Lynn Bowne. That was from Prein and Newhof. Never came off. You did not you said that you had made contact with Bill Fahey. I did not in any way misinterpret what I put in the paper.

Clerk Gute: Board, have we had a second opinion on this entire contract?

Supervisor Miller: I don’t believe that we are going to discuss what we

Clerk Gute: Danny I have the floor you continually choose to cut people off and not let them get their point across. It always has to be your point.

Supervisor Miller: Oh Judy, come on. Come on Judy you say that every time.

Clerk Gute: Board has this board received an opinion on the entire contract as we stated we would by an attorney.

Miller: We have received it from our attorney and our attorney was real close.

Clerk Gute: Would you let the board answer Danny?

Supervisor Miller: And I am returning your call.

Trustee Schultz: He’s doing a good job.

Supervisor Miller: Moving on, any other

Clerk Gute: This is the biggest, biggest strong-arm attempt that I have ever seen.

Trustee Schultz: Well I’m gonna, gonna call the question. I’m gonna call the question.

Supervisor Miller: Questions been called. Anybody else? Questions been called. Would you read your …just the motion please.

Trustee Krajcovic: Motion to enter into the condensed, presented Water Agreement with the City of Owosso to help grow, develop and protect Owosso Charter Township by offering a reasonable source of potable water and authorize and direct Supervisor, Danny Miller to sign on behalf of Owosso Charter Township the presented Water Agreement.

Supervisor Miller: Thank you. We had discussion. Roll call please.

Roll Call: Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Krajcovic-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Clerk Gute-No, Trustee Campbell-No (but the reason is because I think it is going to be too expensive for our customers), Trustee Schultz-Yes, Supervisor Miller-Yes.

6. Payment of Bills. 7. Adjournment: 8:05 P.M.

Respectfully Submitted,

Judy K. Gute, clerk

A complete copy of the minutes are available to the public upon request by contacting the clerk @ (989) 725-1709 ext 2.

March Meetings: Regular Board Mtg. & Public Hearing Budget Adoption Monday, March 14, 2011 @ 7:00 P.M. Purposed budgets will be available for public inspection at the Township offices March 7-9th from 8:00 to 10:00 A.M. Annual Meeting Saturday, March 26, 2011 @ 9:00 A.M

2010-12-13 Minutes


Printed as submitted

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State of Michigan

County of Shiawassee

Charter Township of Owosso

Be it known that the Owosso Charter Township Board of Trustees met in regular session on Monday December 13, 2010 at 7:00 P.M. in the Township Board Room, located at 2998 W. M 21, Owosso, Michigan 48867.

Call to Order: Supervisor Miller led the Pledge to the Flag.

Members in attendance: Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Archer- Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Campbell- Yes. Trustee Krajcovic-Absent (family medical).

Others Present: Attorney Lynn Bowne, Fire Chief David Johnson, Asst. Chief Thornburg, Building/Zoning Administrator Robert Delaney and Assessor Schweikert. MMR Manager Mac Donald – weather related absence.

Agenda: Clerk adds under Cemetery - A) Military Headstone Foundation Fee, New Business: - E) WWTP Board Appointment, F. Sunday Liquor Control and G. Dog Licensing. Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Treasurer Cudney to accept the agenda as printed with the additions. Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Campbell-Yes.

Minutes-Previous Meeting: Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Treasurer Cudney to approve the November 08, 2010 minutes as printed. Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Schultz-No, Trustee Campbell- Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes.

Treasurer’s Report: Attached to minutes. Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Trustee Archer to accept the October 31, 2010 treasurer’s report as printed. Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Trustee Campbell-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes.

Public Comments: Opened at 7:08 pm and closed at 7:08 pm.

Resident Fawn Stephens thanks Tony Newman, Dick and Judy Gute for assistance on drain clean up.

Sheriff’s Dept. Rep./County/State Rep. Comments: The November 2010 report will be provided at the January meeting.

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Cemetery Report: Report on file. Four (1) open/close burial reported for the month of November 2010, for a total income of $200.

A) Military Headstone Foundation Fee: Moved Clerk Gute, Second Trustee Schultz to set a foundation fee of $75.00 to install headstones provided by the military. Roll Call: Supervisor Miller-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Campbell- Yes. (Note: Discussion prior to the roll call vote was that this foundation fee is for limestone foundations only).

Assessor Report: Report on file.

Fire Report: Report on file. The department responded to nine (9) alarms during the month of November 2010.

Moved Clerk Gute, Second Treasurer Cudney to send the Chief and Asst. Chief to the Fire Chief’s Strategy Tactics and Administration Seminar in Almont Michigan on Feburary 5th and 6th and to authorize the clerk to issue and release Fire check #3916 to PTS in the amount of $240.00 to pay for the seminar. Roll Call: Trustee Schultz-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Campbell- Yes, Supervisor Miller-Yes.

Ambulance Report: Due to weather conditions Manager Jason Mac Donald was unable to attend.

Building Inspector/Code Enforcer: Report on file. Four (4) Building, One (1) Mechanical, One (1) Plumbing, Two (2) Electrical and One (1) Other (Cell Tower) permits were issued for the month of November 2010. Total amount collected for permits fees is $1,472.00. Administrator Delaney states the new 2009 Code Book coming out will include the new fire suppressant code for new residential home builds. He states this new code will hurt the building industry.

Unfinished Business:

A) Water Contract - update: Miller states that board members received the water contract update in their mailboxes. Included is a letter the water team put together plus responses. The team states in their letter that as a result of the responses that have been made it is possible for us to go forward and are asking that formal consideration be given on the water agreement at our January meeting.

Gute states she wanted to let the board know that she talked to a lot of people that called requesting absentee ballots this year and they want to do a petition, they want to vote on the water agreement. She felt the board should give them that right. Their main concern was double rates.

Cudney states they voted it down before. That’s right they didn’t want it then and they don’t want it now said Gute.

Cudney states when it was on the ballot they turned it down and that’s when we were ready to put our own system in and they would not have paid double rates.

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A) Water Contract – update (cont.) : Miller tells everyone to bring their concerns to the January meeting.

B) Website Bids: Website information was obtained from Alisha Thibodeau. She lists her favorite sites as Charter Township of Garfield and Brighton Township as they seem to be easy to navigate and would be simple to design. She liked Brighton Township’s home page and Garfield Township’s calendar of events. Alisha did not include pricing in her handout, though could come to a board meeting for better explanation. Website bids will again be placed on January 10, 2011 agenda and continue to be on the agenda until a decision is made.

C) Siminski Situation - update: Attorney Bowne states Mr. Siminski was served by the Sheriff’s Department. There is an order against him that he is not to engage in any recreation activities on his property. Administrator Delaney is the Township Enforcing Agent and he needs to witness any violations that take place on Mr. Siminski’s property. Any violations whether mud-bogging, winter snowmobile races and the like will be noticed on for a show cause before Judge Lostracco on why Mr. Siminski should be held in con tempt of court. If Mr. Siminski does not show up it would lead to a bench warrant. That would set the stage for him to be arrested and get him in front of the judge. At that stage is when we would get him in compliance. He can come to the Township and submit for a conditional use permit that would allow him to hold such events but we just haven’t been able to get him in here.

D) Cemetery Rules: Discussion regarding no benches. Consensus of the board was to define benches to mean those other than headstone benches. Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Trustee Archer to adopt the cemetery rules as presented and; authorize a large print to be made for the garage window and a few smaller prints to be made to place throughout the cemetery. Ayes: All. Nayes: None.

E) M.T.A. Conference – Grand Rapids Jan 26, 27, 28: Moved Clerk Gute, Second Treasurer Cudney to authorize board members, assessor and the building administrator to attend the MTA Convention in Grand Rapids January 26, 27 and 28th and that the Township will pay for the cost of the conference. Ayes: All. Nayes: None.

New Business:

A) Board of Review Appointments – 2 Year Term 2011-2013: Moved Treasurer Cudney, Second Trustee Schultz to appoint Ed Buchmayer, Robert Delaney and Frank Lorenz as Board of Review members and Chad White as the alternate member with all terms ending December 31, 2013. Roll Call: Trustee Archer-Yes, Trustee Campbell- Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Clerk Gute-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Supervisor Miller-Yes.

B) Board of Review Training – Feb. 10, 2011 in Frankenmuth: Moved Treasurer Cudney, Second Trustee Schultz to authorize Ed Buchmayer, Robert Delaney, Frank Lorenz, Chad White, Steve Schweikert and Supervisor Miller to attend the MTA Board of Review Training in Frankenmuth on February 10, 2011 and to authorize the clerk to issue and release General Fund Check #4714 in the amount of $450 to pay for this training. Ayes: All. Nayes: None.

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C) Budget Workshop: A budget workshop will be held on Monday January 31, 2011, at 6:00pm.

D) Annual Meeting: The board chose not to hold an Annual meeting last year. Board members will need to decide whether or not to hold one this year. Miller states the last Saturday in March is the 26th. The decision will be made at the budget workshop.

E) WWTP – Appointment of Board Rep.: Gute states Trustee Archer is a newly elected official as of November and needs to be reappointed as the board representative to the WWTP. Moved Clerk Gute, Second Trustee Schultz to appoint Trustee Archer as the board representative to the Waste Water Treatment Authority with her term ending November 20, 2012. Ayes: All. Nayes: None.

F) Sunday Liquor Control: Consensus of the board is that the Township would not act on the early Sunday liquor sales at this time.

G) Dog Licensing: Gute states most have probably heard that the County is eliminating the Animal Shelter. Kay Lauro has done a lot of homework regarding this. She has drafted an ordinance that could possibly save our residents money in dog license fees and she is sending it to all the municipalities in the county. Gute then gave each board member and Attorney Bowne a copy of Ms. Lauro’s ordinance and relinquished the floor to Ms. Lauro for further explanation.

Bennington Township Resident/Owosso Township Emergency Services Taxpayer Kay Lauro:

The county has adopted a budget based on the fact they will be closing the animal control shelter. They haven’t closed it yet, but it is in the budget to close it. You might not be able to change that. They way it works is, in 2004 the county raised dog license fees to raise money to make improvements to the shelter so it would pass state inspection. Now they say the shelter still doesn’t pass state inspection and they can’t afford to keep it open. They have also budgeted to collect $137,000 in dog license fees. They collected $136,000 in 2010. The way they have it right now is they are going to make a $50,000 profit…. (At this point Supervisor Miller states “moving on” and cut Ms Lauro off).

Payment of Bills: Moved Treasurer Cudney, Second Trustee Schultz to approve the December 13, 2010 checklists including the recent additions per the board meeting for the payment of bills. Roll Call: Clerk Gute-Yes, Treasurer Cudney-Yes, Trustee Schultz-Yes, Trustee Archer-Yes, Supervisor Miller-Yes, Trustee Campbell.

(Cemetery checks – 1043 – 1052, Fire checks 3898 – 3916, General Fund checks 4692 – 4615, Sewer checks 383, T & A checks 2052 – 2055 and Water checks 595 – 596 shall be released for payment).

Public Comments: Opened @ 8:05 P.M. Closed @ 8:15P.M.

Resident Jeff Sines thanked the board for getting the woodpile removed at 659 Hollywood Dr. However, he would like to know when the hole would be filled in, when the pool would be taken care of, etc.

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Public Comments:

Administrator Delaney states there is nothing he can do about the house because no structural change was done to it and; Township ordinance does not address the dirt pile or the pool. The Health Dept. does not address the pool either.

Mr. Sines states neighbors were tired of looking at it and it is right across the street from Trustee Krajcovic.

Administrator Delaney states the house did not bother Trustee Krajcovic.

Clerk Gute states she had fire safety concerns. They only have one door now.

Resident Richard Gute states the homeowner cut into the basement wall and put a door in. That’s structural.

Miller states the Township took care of the one out on M21. We’ll look into it.

Gute states the talk last month was that you (Delaney & Miller) worked with Mr. Lee for three (3) years. We have zoning in place we shouldn’t be working 3 to 5 years to get things done. We need to go in and get it done. I know none of you would want to live next to or across from this. We need to do something. It’s ruining property values.

Cudney states when people don’t mow their lawn we go in mow it and add it to their tax bill. Why can’t we do something like that?

Miller states perhaps the board would like to look at the zoning book and draft ideas. Gute states the Planning Commission needs to do that.

Mr. Sines thanked the board.

Board Reports and Comments:

Refuse collection bid received. Will change service if price is cheaper elsewhere.

Record to reflect there are numerous minutes not signed by the Supervisor.

A lot of calls received regarding the possibility of a home on Day Rd that has been made into an apartment house. There is no way to prove this is an apartment house. The Township does not have the right or authority to do an inspection. Substantial information would be necessary before Township could take action.

Adjournment: Moved Trustee Schultz, Second Treasurer Cudney to adjourn at 8:28p.m.

Respectfully Submitted,

Judy K. Gute Danny C. Miller

Owosso Charter Township, clerk Owosso Charter Township, supervisor